Issue 1285: Not identical to “Monadh Liath/The Sportsman's Haunt”

Object: Rose among the Heather (Tune)
Submitter: Anselm Lingnau (anselm)
Assigned to: —
Priority: Normal
Disposition: New
Description: The suggestion that “The Rose Among the Heather” and “Am Monadh Liath” are the same tune is ludicrous (compare the two recordings for the dance, “Monadh Liath”, to find that they are completely different – “Am Monadh Liath” is in B minor and “The Rose” is in D major, to begin with).

These tune entries will need to be disentangled.

Previous Actions

Date Nov. 10, 2017, 2:47 a.m.
User Anselm Lingnau (anselm)

New issue submitted

Date Nov. 10, 2017, 10:44 a.m.
User Heiko Schmidt (castle_ghost)

I cannot do this, but I checked the two tune publications I have. Duthie’s “Eight Scottish Country Dances” and “The Ribble Valley Book” contain “Rose among the Heather”. And from what I can say as a Non-Musician using pattern-matching, the tunes are the same (but different arrangements).

Cheers, Heiko

Date Dec. 19, 2022, 9:20 p.m.
User Viktor Lehmann (tone2tone)

A tune sheet for The Sportsman Haunt aka Am Monadh Liath can be seen here: https://thesession.org/tunes/18395
A video with an onscreen tune sheet for “Rose among the Heather” can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcxG0TUHzp0 … and they don’t look anywhere similar, even if THIS version of Am Monadh Liath isn’t in minor as the one Anselm compared it to. Which raises the questions how far the wrong connections go and which tune is really which. Would we have any plan at all on how to separate such an amount of recordings? Would we find the original tunes for each recording?