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Issue 2668: This tune is the same as Kohler's Hornpipe

Object
Hornpipe (Tune)
Submitter
Nicolas Jeannerod (Niols)
Assigned to
Murrough Landon
Priority
Normal
Disposition
Fixed
Description

Good day,

I was listening to James Gray’s CD “Piano Dance”, and its third track “Ms Katy B.” in particular. The album’s entry in question is:

https://my.strathspey.org/dd/album/513/

The fourth tune in this track is said to be “Hornpipe”, and the corresponding entry is:

https://my.strathspey.org/dd/tune/711/

But this tune is exactly the same as “Kohler’s Hornpipe” in other recordings. In particular, it seems to be the same as in Chris Duncan & Catherine Strutt’s CD “Carriages at Midnight”, first track: “The Inimitable Derek”. The album and tune entries in questions are:

https://my.strathspey.org/dd/album/1081/ https://my.strathspey.org/dd/tune/3672/

These tune entries mention other recordings that contain them. I checked the ones that I have in my collection, so I can confirm that the following occurrences are all the same tune indeed:

James Gray - Piano Dance - 3. Ms Katy B. Chris Duncan & Catherine Strutt - Carriages at Midnight - 1. The Inimitable Derek Muriel Johnstone & Keith Smith - Delaware Valley Spring Ball 2003 - 7. Burn’s Hornpipe Terpsichore - A Dancer’s Best Friend - 3. Flowers of Edinburgh

Finally, for reference, here is a score for this tune, that I got from the ABC Tune Finder:

http://john-chambers.us/~jc/cgi/abc/get.cgi?F=SVG&U=/~jc/music/abc/mirror/terrytraub.org/KohlersHornpipeR.abc&X=1&T=KOHLERSHORNPIPE

Best regards, Niols

Previous Actions

  • Date  Dec. 8, 2021, 9:48 p.m.
  • User  Nicolas Jeannerod (Niols)

New issue submitted

  • Date  Dec. 9, 2021, 12:58 a.m.
  • User  Murrough Landon (murrough)

Assigned changed to »murrough« (previously »None«)
Disposition changed to »Fixed« (previously »New«)

Hello Niols. Thanks for such a detailed and well researched comment.

I have the Piano Dance CD and in the insert the list of tunes for Ms Katy B ends with “Hornpipe - Köhler’s Collection”. So its easy to see someone just chose the generic “Hornpipe” when entering the data, but with the benefit of your comments its clear we should link the tune the database refers to as “Kohler’s Hornpipe” (without umlaut).

So I have changed the recording to use that one and also added a note for the person Kohler (https://my.strathspey.org/dd/person/1416/, no umlaut) that they are presumably responsible for Köhler’s Collection.