Issue 3034: Dance for recording

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Assigned changed to »tone2tone« (previously »None«)
Disposition changed to »Fixed« (previously »New«)

Dance added. We won’t comment on the half dance thing though, that’s often the case even for normal 8x32 dances with 4x32 recordings… Thanks!

You can’t have a half-an-Eightsome-Reel recording that you play twice because a (full) Eightsome Reel consists of a 40-bar figure, eight 48-bar figures, and another 40-bar figure to finish. Certainly not if you insist on dancing with the music. Petty, I know. (You could presumably have the first half of the dance on one side of your record and the second half on the other, though. I don’t know whether that’s ever been done.)

(Mind you, I’ve seen people dance a complete Eightsome after doing the 16-bar grand chain in the first 40-bar bit in 8 bars – they thought 16 bars were too slow and had decided to speed this up –, so for the rest of the dance the music and the choreography were 8 bars out of phase. I don’t remember what they did with their extra 16 bars at the end.)

Hi Anselm,

your story reminds me of the Regensburg group dancing the Eightsome on balls in the end 1990ies. They tried to save every spare bar they could find in the repeated introduction and used it for extended birling at the end of the dance. (only possible if at least most dancers of the set were ‘well-informed’)

I cannot recall they transferred such ‘spare bars’ also from the first 40 bars of the dance to the the birling at the very end as you describe it. However, I would not claim it impossible ;o)))

Cheers with fond memories from the past, Heiko

Disposition changed to »Needs help« (previously »Fixed«)

Okay Anselm, I fully understand. So, what do you suggest shall I do with thte 232 bars recordings for “Eightsome Reel”? There are a few. Shall I disconnect them from the dance or what do you think is best? Shall I add notes to the 232 bar recordings instead of connecting them OR connect them to the dance AND leave notes?

I’d link the recording to the dance and add a note saying that it covers only half the dance. People ought to know that an Eightsome Reel needs 464 bars of music, so if the music is only 232 bars it shouldn’t take a Ph.D. in mathematics for someone to figure out what’s going on, but a note that makes this clear is probably helpful for people who don’t look too closely at the number of bars for the recording.

Disposition changed to »Fixed« (previously »Needs help«)

Thanks Anselm. To all recordings that did NOT have 464 bars in total (there are many odd amounts of bars), I added comments. Either “Odd recording when it comes to bar count. The Eightsome Reel requires 464 bars in its standard version.” or “Odd recording when it comes to bar count. The Eightsome Reel requires 464 bars in its standard version and due to its structure, a recording cannot be played twice.”