Dance Rosnor Abbey 5688

Jig · 40 bars · 2 couples · Longwise - 4

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Intensity
44 44 80 88 88 = 70% (1 turn), 48% (whole dance)
Formations
Steps
  • Pas-de-Basque, Skip-Change
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Recommended Music
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Rosnor Abbey

There is much ...

Rosnor Abbey

There is much confusion about the precise execution of bars 1-2 and 9-10.

The older variant is for both pairs (1W+2M and 1M+2W) to turn RH and face each other on the midline, W above M. This pattern is asymmetric; 1W+2M make a 7/8 turn and back, 1M+2W a 5/8 turn and back. None of the instructions mention 5/8, 7/8 or even mentions the asymmetry

Later instructions specify ½ turn, that would bring each pair to the same diagonal as where they started.

The most recent instructions add an (optional?) ¾ turn. If taken precisely this brings the pairs to the other diagonal.

For the record, here are some official descriptions; there's plenty of confusion.

My (purple, undated) copy of MMM1 (page 38) has the following original text 1-4 1st lady and 2nd man turn each other by the right hand for 2 skip change of step; facing up and down in the middle of the dance they set to each other. 5-8 They turn each other with left hands back to places, and set. 9-16 1st man and 2nd lady do the same

The 1992 Manual has a note: Bars 1-4 !st woman and 2nd man turn to finish with 1st woman facing down and 2nd man facing up. Bars 9-12 !st man and 2nd woman turn to finish with 1st man facing up and 2nd woman facing down

The 2005 Manual does not have a note for the dance

The 2013 Manual has a note: Bars 1-2 !st woman and 2nd man turn three-quarters to finish with 1st woman facing down and 2nd man facing up. In earlier versions of these bars, !st woman and 2nd man turn half way Bars 9-10 !st man and 2nd woman turn three-quarters to finish with 1st man facing up and 2nd woman facing down. Alternatively they may turn half way.

TACnotes 4th ed 1995 says 1-2 1st woman & 2nd man three-quarters turn to finish with woman facing down and man up. 9-10 1st man and 2nd woman turn as bars 1-2

TACnotes 5th ed 2008 says 1-2 NB: In 2007 edition this is a HALF turn to face each other in middle of the set. 9-10 2nd woman and1st man turn as bars 1-2

Read more: on the RSCDS website the Technique Panel has published a statement at http://www.rscds.org/help/technique-panel-dances/60-rosnor-abbey.html

Rosnor Abbey 2/4L · J40

1–
1W+2M turn RH ¾ to face each other on midline (M below W) | set ; turn LH back to places, set
9–
1M+2W repeat
17–
1c lead down the middle and up
25–
1c+2c Allemande
33–
2c+1c R&L.

(Note: [1-2] and [9-10] now specify half turns, superseding older instructions.

Rosnor Abbey 2/4L · J40

1-8
1L+2M 3/4 turn RH & set to each other (Man facing up & Lady down), 1L+2M turn 1/2 LH back to places & set
9-16
1M+2L repeat above Fig
17-24
1s lead down the middle & back ready for Allemande
25-32
1s+2s dance Allemande
33-40
2s+1s dance R&L

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Ilana Steiner
Added on: April 13, 2017, 3:20 p.m.
Quality: Reasonable

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