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Issue 1158: Proposal: Create the progressions "Top Alternates" and "Top Circulates"

Object
Crossing the Line (Dance)
Submitter
Eric Ferguson (EricFerguson)
Assigned to
Eric Ferguson
Priority
Normal
Disposition
Being handled
Description

In Issue 1114 Roland Telle remarked that there were 7 “longwise” dances with the progression “top moves”. I have just checked them all; in each case there was both a progression of the couples within the set, and a change of “top”. In some dances the set even “rotated” from “longwise” to “crosswise”. I have reset all these progressions to “other”. “Top Moves” now applies to square sets only. Let’s keep it that way.

There are now 78 dances with progression “other”. Quite a number are longwise dances in which a progression of couples is combined with the top alternating between ends (like “Crossing the Line”). I guess that sometimes teachers will want to try out such dances in class and events, and so want to be able to search for them. With 78 “other” that is not efficient.

Proposal: Let us create a new progression category “Top Alternates” for these longwise dances. In principle we could distinguish different “couples progressions” within “top alternates”, but why bother? The number of dances will not be large. We can always expand the code later if needed. If the proposal is accepted we will need to check the 78 “other” dances. Feasible.

That leaves “other” for still more unusual progressions.

Cheers. Eric

Previous Actions

  • Date  March 29, 2017, 3:28 p.m.
  • User  Eric Ferguson (EricFerguson)

New issue submitted

  • Date  Dec. 9, 2022, 8:35 p.m.
  • User  Viktor Lehmann (tone2tone)

Sounds fine to me and I like the suggestion, and as a teacher even more.

  • Date  Aug. 16, 2023, 11:31 p.m.
  • User  Eric Ferguson (EricFerguson)

Subject changed to “Proposal: Create the progressions “Top Alternates” and “Top Circulates”” (previously “Proposal: A new progression “Top Alternates” for longwise sets”)
Assigned changed to “EricFerguson” (previously “None”)
Disposition changed to “Being handled” (previously “New”)

This issue has been asleep for so long that I am resubmitting this proposal, revised.

One useful function of SCDDB is to help teachers find dances with specific features. One of these features is when on each repeat the top of the set has moved to a new position. At the moment the progression “Top Moves” is the only one we have for all such dances.

We can distinguish several forms of “Top Moves”:

  1. In a longwise set, the top changes ends on each repeat. It is in fact “Top Alternates”. Example: Drewry’s “Crossing the Line”.
  2. In a square (or triangular / pentagonal / hexagonal) set: the top moves one place round on each repeat. “Top circulates”.
  3. More complicated variants, such as longwise sets that alternate between “longwise” and “crosswise”. All these are still “Top Moves”.

PROPOSAL: To add the progressions “Top Alternates” and “Top circulates” for the first two main groups, and use “Top Moves” for those remaining. The number of dances with the cryptic progression “Other” will decrease.

Could you tell us how useful this finer subdivision of “Top Moves” will be for teachers?

Cheers. Eric