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Issue 1272: Minor title correction and extra information

Object
The Celtic Brooch (Publication)
Submitter
Murrough Landon (murrough)
Assigned to
Heiko Schmidt
Priority
Normal
Disposition
Fixed
Description

Having just been given a copy of this book I thought I would adopt it, so here is a minor title correction and some page number information. All else looks fine in the DB.

Title: Both cover and inside front page actually have “The Celtic Brooch” with “The” which is missing from the database entry for the publication. Publisher and date are correct.

Dances: The description of the only dance in the book, also called “The Celtic Brooch” (correct in the DB) starts on page 2.

Dance type, shape and bar count: 3T and J192 is probably the best way of describing it so I do not propose changing that, though the dance is actually any number of variations of a 32 bar theme. Foss just suggests six variations “will usually suffice”.

Steps: Correct.

Formations: Rather a lot so I will not attempt to list them (hoping the new formation system is still imminent…)

Tunes: All present in the DB and correctly named and attributed (but see below for p18). Page numbers in the publication are:

  • page 16: Orange and Blue
  • page 18: The Hurdle Race (no composer given in the book, only the arranger, so I just assume the DB has the composer correct)
  • page 19: Glendarroch

Summary: with updated publication title and page numbers as above, I think the TLC level could be 3.

Previous Actions

  • Date  Oct. 27, 2017, 12:08 a.m.
  • User  Murrough Landon (murrough)

New issue submitted

  • Date  Oct. 27, 2017, 2:20 p.m.
  • User  Heiko Schmidt (castle_ghost)

Assigned changed to »castle_ghost« (previously »None«)

Dear Murrough,

thanks a lot for adopting and feedback.

I cross-checked with my copy and added the “The”.

Since the editor originally adding the entry did not set the pagenumbering flag, I have added order numbers instead of page number, i.e. 1 for the dance and 1,2,3 for the tunes. I thing the majority of publications in SCDDB has been entered with order instead of page numbering. Using the age number for the dance seems not the best way, since the descriptions including all 57 varieties reach up to the 2nd last page in this 1-dance publication.

Ad Formations: I agree that it might not be sensible to attempt to list all formations including all 57 varieties. It is not the typical dance you would choose for class from a Formation search ;)

I agree and re-set the TLC level.

Furthermore, I have checked the dance entry itself and added slip-step, because at least Second Set, Second Figure contains these as well. And I added some Extra Info to the dance. Please have a look.

Finally, I have set the Status to “Tunes: verified and complete” - I left Steps and Formations at “possibly incomplete” because for the former some Reel-of-Tulloch-like steps have been suggested and possibly other Highland like steps elsewhere.

Best, Heiko

  • Date  Oct. 27, 2017, 8:53 p.m.
  • User  Murrough Landon (murrough)

Dear Heiko, Thanks. You are much more thorough than me!

I am happy with numbering by order rather than by page, but I think it was the other way when I previously adopted The Kangaroo Paw (http://my.strathspey.org/dd/publication/1009/).

I like your extra information. Though I suspect Hugh Foss might have been hoping it could be more common than a demonstration dance. I have tried it with a reasonably expert group and think the “6 yards apart” instruction is quite large. The group doing the video look like they are a bit closer than that.

The video comment has a link to an online source of the instructions (http://www.scottish-country-dancing-dictionary.com/dance-crib/celtic-brooch.html) which I just noticed is not currently entered for the dance. Would you like to add that? I guess a link to a MaxiCrib is OK even if wholesale incorporation of them is not?

By the way, is it just me or is it a known common problem that despite always clicking the “keep me informed” check box, actually I never get emails these days? Im sure it worked in the past but has not for many months at least. These days when I submit an issue I check the issue page manually a day or so afterwards. Cheers, Murrough.

  • Date  Oct. 28, 2017, 1:11 p.m.
  • User  Anselm Lingnau (anselm)

This is OT for the issue system but in order to make Murrough see this, here goes:

Murrough, the reason you’re not seeing copies of action notes is that, for whatever reason, your mail server does not accept e-mail from my mail server. Here’s a typical error message:

strathspey@landon.org.uk: host mx.landon.org.uk.cust.a.hostedemail.com[216.40.42.4] said: 571 5.7.1 Message contains spam or virus or sender is blocked : name84_84edd04c9f80d (in reply to end of DATA command)

It does not condescend to explain exactly what it thinks is wrong with the message and I have frankly no time to engage in guessing games or protracted argument with foreign e-mail administrators. I regularly check that my mail server is not on any of the 50+ leading e-mail blacklists and it is invariably in the clear. It is also obvious that the issue updates are not spam, nor being plain text, do they contain viruses, so what your e-mail provider finds objectionable in them is a mystery to me. Maybe you can set them straight; they might listen to you because you’re their customer, they certainly have no reason to listen to me because I’m not.

  • Date  Oct. 28, 2017, 2:59 p.m.
  • User  Anselm Lingnau (anselm)

To add insult to injury, e-mail to the postmaster@landon.org.uk address is also refused, which is a violation of RFC 5321, section 4.5.1. Not a good sign.

  • Date  Jan. 12, 2023, 7:17 p.m.
  • User  Viktor Lehmann (tone2tone)

Hi Heiko, hi Murrough, is there still anything unclear regarding this issue or can we close it?

  • Date  Jan. 12, 2023, 7:30 p.m.
  • User  Murrough Landon (murrough)

Disposition changed to »Fixed« (previously »New«)

I think its fine to close this.

  • Date  Jan. 13, 2023, 8:54 a.m.
  • User  Heiko Schmidt (castle_ghost)

I also agree with closing!