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Issue 3017: Duplicate?

Object
Foursome Reel (Recording)
Submitter
Mark Dancer (Aelfric)
Assigned to
Viktor Lehmann
Priority
Normal
Disposition
Ignored
Description

Is this a duplicate of 8774 The Foursome Reel. Same tunes, and the timing differs by only 2 seconds (which is likely one disc has trimmed off some silence)?

Previous Actions

  • Date  Dec. 24, 2022, 7:43 a.m.
  • User  Mark Dancer (Aelfric)

New issue submitted

  • Date  Dec. 24, 2022, 10:59 a.m.
  • User  Murrough Landon (murrough)

Subject changed to »Duplicate?« (previously »Dup;ocate?«)

I think bands have favourite tune sets and might possibly use the same set for two separate recordings of the same dance. Though just reusing an older recording on a new album is obviously also possible. Its probably harmless to merge them but no great advantage either I think (unlike dances or tunes).

  • Date  Dec. 24, 2022, 11:18 a.m.
  • User  Mark Dancer (Aelfric)

Hi Murrough,

Given that one of the tracks is on a Bobby MacLeod compilation (Highland Accordion Maestro) and the other is on a various artists compilation (Legendary Scottish Dance Bands Vol 1), it’s highly probable that it’s reuse of a track (if it was two albums of original recordings, then I’d argue they would be different recordings).

The advantage of merging is that when a third album shows up, you don’t have the issue of which of the recordings you connect it with (hint, there is a third album, and I’m just waiting on issue 3013 which will add it to the database so start linking up the tracks).

Cheers, and Merry Christmas,

Mark

  • Date  Dec. 26, 2022, 10:07 p.m.
  • User  Viktor Lehmann (tone2tone)

Hi Mark, I second Murrough here. From the database editing point of view, it is kind of “unnecessary” work when it comes to recordings. To determine whether a recording is a duplicate or not, we would have to listen to them; we can’t determine it on length or tune lists. And it has no advantage to us to put work into this (clearing up or finding/confirming duplicate recording entries). If an editor creates a third entry for the third recording or reuses one of the existing two is his choice and for sure based on the basic data he has (e.g. if I have no information on playing time, exact tunes at the time of creation - then I create a new entry, to be safe).
I tend to ignore requests for “recordings consolidation” and concentrate on tune, dance, person duplicates - that’s the “bigger bugger”.

  • Date  Jan. 12, 2023, 9:42 p.m.
  • User  Viktor Lehmann (tone2tone)

Assigned changed to »tone2tone« (previously »None«)
Disposition changed to »Ignored« (previously »New«)